HINDUISM-8-C.-Untouchability a Social Menace?!

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HINDUISM-8-C.-Untouchability a Social Menace?!

by ramrali19 @ 2008-02-29 – 10:53:58

HINDUISM-8-C.

Hindus are more practical in thinking of God. They think that every thing in the creation is God. The Evil, Bad, and Satan every thing is created by Him. One should know the utility of the devil too to get the help of Devil and meet his own needs. As such air, fire (Sun), Water, Sky and Earth are also worshipped by Hindus. Other religious people ask. Almighty is one. No body should worship His creation. As we are created others are also being created by Him. If you want that you should be respected, naturally the others will also think that they should be respected. We are all living in this Universe as before our entry God kept here air, water, fire, sky and earth for our dwelling happily.
So, they are elder and ancestors for we people. So, we must respect them. The other religious people say as if they don't worship these five elements. UN knowingly they too respect these elements though they don’t worship them as Hindus do. They too breathe air. They too drink water. They too use fire for their needs. It is itself an indirect worship of these five elements. So, every thing in the Universe is part and parcel of God. Fragments and fragrances.
In snails the blood is blue in color as in that there is copper. In case of plants leaves are green in color as there is magnesium in that. What ever may be the metal, it is itself God for that living being. One has to remember here the blood is Trinity having the three-Brahma Vishnu and Maheswara. Further this Krishna in the form of giving food and keep the life in harmonious condition is also present.
I say Diamond as God! What is diamond? Nothing but carbon.
So, Carbon is God. Every where there is God. (Lord Krishna or Lord Shiva. Carbohydrates, Proteins, and fats all will give energy by means of combustion with oxygen and fire in the cells.
Without carbon there is no life. Every life is a carbon particle. As per the carbon dating now a days scientists are able to tell the age of a living being. How many ages past that particular living being belong? Never think that carbon is God Krishna. But, Krishna is present in that also to give energy to you. All food stuffs are having carbon atoms.
To tell this only the story of Lord Narasimha coming out from a Pillar is present in Hindu mythology.
To a hungry man food is God. To a thirsty person water is God. To a person in choke Oxygenated
air is God. To the man in darkness light is God. To man under the sky; The Ozone cover for protection from Sun rays is God. To man on earth to stay comfortably, earth is God. How can any body define God to whom they never saw?! Hence, Hindu concept seems to be more apt and worshipping the nature created by Him is more acceptable and correct. Hindus told every pin point is God provided you see. Hence, any object is God if you think with pious thoughts.
If any body says there is no God; to him I say- Yes you are correct! But, one thing is true- Before I entered into this Universe Me visible to every body-Some body has kept air here for my breathing, some body has kept water for me to drink, some body has kept food for me to have. Some body gave shelter under the sky to dwell. Some body has provided earth for me like a swing to have a daily swings with lullaby of Devine music of my coexistent partners sharing the pleasure.
So, to Him I bow my head saying He as my and every bodies God. Is there any doubt of Hindu concept as regards God?!
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Final product is ash. This ash is being rubbed by Lord Shiva to His body with due respect over all the Universal beings. Hindus indirectly told that every thing becomes ash. Even though every thing turns to ash, it does not mean that matter perished. Again it is being rubbed By Lord. Carbon is black in colour see coal. If burns to ashes become white-which ash is with respect will bear on or put on by Lord Shiva. After the death these ashes and at times directly the dead bodies are merged in the rivers and oceans by Hindus. Thus the remnant of life is to enter God again.
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Life starts as carbon and enters into carbon.
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When every thing is God in Hindu concept carbon is also God. Some fragrance of God or some fragments of God present in the carbon too. If any body wants to assess the caste or the nature of works done by the persons of different blood groups will not give results as told in this. The reason is mutations took place. It was so ages past at the time of Lord Krishna it was so. Later races have changed, Hence, Now there were no castes at all. Hindus' Veda says metaphorically literally several things. In that this castes evolved from God Head, Chest and legs all will come.
Social Menace: - UN -touch ability in Hindu caste system:-

Hindus were united under the Rulers obeying the Orders of Kings, later they were introverted and them selves became un-touchable to one another by virtue of thinking that every body has to seek God on their own way to get the result made them secluded from society. This resulted into different castes among them selves. The Sages age has gone. There came the saints’ age. In the Ancient Hindus there was no strict caste system. Simply these castes are mentioned scientifically to make understand the human body in which all such differences is present. When these caste systems among people came into existence basing on social and economic status building up Hinduism as one religion of its own the charm of Hinduism started declining .To be Hindu
is said to be a shame due to this caste system prevalent among Hindus and some were kept aside as
UN touchable. Sages’ age does mean-the ages of Rushis-In those ages the sages married all the ladies of any caste. They never divided society on castes. When the age of sages entered to curtail one evil in their Hindu culture they introduced another evil.
When every body is God-every body is un-touchable; as we are not allowed to touch God who will be more illuminating or cold which leads us to perish ability if touched. The children are particularly to be away from the elders. The reason behind is the immunity system of children is weak . Their health may be spoiled in contact with elders. Thus "No shake hands and no kisses and hugs are allowed among the community. It's just to avoid the spread of diseases from man to man. Particularly the butchers are not allowed to get contacted with others in the society and they were kept at a long distance. The microbes present on their body will spread in the air and thus inhaled by others. So, to avoid such hazardous condition this un-touch ability among persons came.
Any how this un-touch ability is not present among the same cult and their children; I mean to say two butchers won't get disease from one to the other. The members of the same family won't get the diseases from one to the other as in their race, already immunity for several diseases developed. When foreigners enter India they take more precautions for their health, Indians are having more immunity in their country for the prevalent diseases in India, where as those diseases are rather a death for foreigners. Though Indian climate suits to everybody, those who come from western countries which were very cold, they can not survive in India. One is climatic difference. second is the new diseases which were not seen in their countries. Like wise for Indians , the same will be the difficulty in foreign and contact with foreigners. Hence, every care has to be taken. Thus this un-touch ability started. Now a days quarantine is known by health
Department; and they are keeping for few days in quarantine and observing, and later they are allowed to mingle with others. Now a days several disinfectants and other chemicals were invented and they are able to kill the bacteria, sterilization methods too were known. In good olden days no body knows all these things. So, they thought that the prevention is better than cure and kept those people who do work with flesh, bones, burial grounds ,and all organic matters away from the others of the society. But, they liked them and said that God is present in them also and they are also allowed when they clean their body and mingle in some other area where his caste is not known. Here it is important to say one thing. Hindus said the rivers and wells too have got "menstruous cycle" The local people present in the river banks can bathe during that periods, where
as those travelers coming from other places shouldn't take bath. How can one say that the rivers and wells are in the menstruous periods? See the water. During this periods water flow is very rapid, water colour is red, rainy seasons are most common. mud-red water indicates that the water is menstruous water. Hence, they declared all rivers, wells, and nature as women, where as they call Ocean as masculine in gender. Here one can understand why Ocean is masculine? The water of Ocean is salty. In that salty water the bacteria die. (Brine solution)To preserve the pickles and meat the brine solution is used. Hindus use Sun heat also for preserving the food stuffs, which was not known to westerns. Westerns use cold storages for preservations. Unfortunately in those cold storages at times the botulinum occurs due to anaerobic bacteria. Though these scientific reasons are no known fully in those days; this type of conditions were kept by Hindus. The learned “Rushis" of those days were knowing these things. So, they have given preference to Sun as one of the gods and next fire also as one of the gods. Now a days in bacteriology laboratories, the scientist work in front of the bun Shane burners and have an over all apron on the body to keep the bacteria away from their body and see that these bacteria should not come out of lab with their clothes. They also use disinfectants like dettol-phenol, spirit etc. Knowing the facts Hindu sages Rushis used to stay in front of fire in midst of the hut (house) pouring ghee in the fire to keep the flame always be flaming. By the side of that fire 'Rushis" chant mantras. Ruhis are rather bare bodied- only little clothes present on their skin, at the chest region no clothes present. Due to this heat bacteria won't survive on their body. The air is hot in which also bacteria will not survive. That air is inhaled by them. Hence there is no scope for them to acquire any disease. The powder (vibhuthi) present in the fire (agnihotra)is having tremendous powers in curing the diseases. The reason behind it is the bacteria which already died will never allow other bacteria to live in that dust media. So, these Rushis used to help society with that vibhuthi. The un-touchable to whom we spoke will also get a cure by using that powder Vibhoothi? At present this type of prayers and preparation of vibhoothi is not
present. Only, the cow ghee has to be used. There are some trees stems only be used as fire wood. The un-touch ability for one purpose created by Hindus became a head ache now after knowing the sterilization methods too.
There is another type of un-touch ability among Hindu families of the same caste and same sir names and nearest relatives; which is being observed at the time of deaths and births of any body in those families. All the persons with the same sir name have to observe this and those sir name persons are kept away from the society for ten to thirteen days. If a lady of any family gives delivery to a child, those persons and the relatives possessing the same sir names are kept away and they are un-touchable till they take a final bath of "punyavachana snanam",and also their house should be cleaned (washed with sacred water like Ganges or turmeric water or water of Tulasi plant leaves soaked.) If any body touches them or takes food in their house, they too should get a full bath to become sacred?!! And then only they can touch others of their own family and relatives and friends. If any body dies in any family; those family members and the persons of
that sir name also will be kept un-touchable for ten days. After the people of that family and their sir name persons taking holy bath are permitted to mingle others and they will be invited by others to attend their functions. Further the near by relatives also will be imposed this un touchable for 3 days to one day, and in some cases immediately after hearing the demise of the person to take sacred bath immediately and then get mingled in society. Any how the sons of the demised person are kept away from performing prayers in temples for one year. Further, they can not perform the marriage of their sons up to one year, but there is an exception for daughters. If the daughters of that family get married within that one year the virtue (punya) goes to the man died and he will be taken to heaven. This amendment is present for daughters' marriages. The son-in-laws of the demised man will be un-touchable for 3 days. Where as all Daughter-in-laws are untouchable up to 10 days along with their sons. The daughters who got married already and residing in in-laws' houses will be un touchable up to 3 days only. Probably, their sir name has been changed and they will follow the customs and formalities of husband side. After one year only the sons of that family are allowed to enter temples and pray or worship God. In the same way these persons are not permitted to take bath along with others till one year. Ofcourse, nobody is following this procedure now a day. So, who is untouchable here? Whether God or human beings??! Hindu God gods also get untouchables during the solar and lunar eclipse days. On those days the temple doors will be closed and no body is allowed to enter and pray Him?! So, God is untouchable on those days. There was an exception now told for Lord Siva. On such eclipse days too He can be worshipped as all devils and demons are under His control. They obey the Orders of Lord Shiva?!
There is another type of un touch ability to God. When any body dies in the temple; till the temple is cleaned and God is washed with sacred water .He is UN touchable and no prayers and worships are performed. If any body in that Temple Street or lane in the vicinity of temple; till that dead body is removed and the temple cleaned with holy water mixed with turmeric powder ; that God is untouchable and He will not be offered any food. After completing all the sacred duties the Brahmins and Pujaris of the temple, again bring back God into that idol (life is brought and kept in mantras.) and then food is offered.
Another type of untouchably is present in the house having patients of small pox, chicken-pox (These diseases are thought to be due to goddess) To make every body know that a patient of small pox is in their house they keep taddy (kallu) made locally, and turmeric water at the door steps of the family and also neem plant leaves are tied to the doors. By this no body will enter their house. The individuals present in that house will be secluded voluntarily and they will not mingle with others in the society till the period of that disease dis appearance and taking bath. Further the persons of that family and village will also never move to other villages. They get themselves imposed by some quarantine methods. As temples are the places where several people mingle there is every possibility of spreading the disease. So, this type of care is taken. Hence, Hinduism is not a religion as such but, is science motivated type of living by learned people. One should not distribute sorrows and sufferings to others are the motto behind this. In temples and other crowded places if the persons having sorrow of death in their family, they continuously talk about the demise of their family member which will spoil the happy mood of others. So also this restriction might have been imposed. The student should not touch his teacher. Thus teacher and students are un touchable among them. Except in some occasions in all other times every body should lead their own individual life without touching each other.
Every Hindu family will be having a separate room meant for worshipping their God.
Every family is having their own God (ilavelupu) to whom they must offer first worship and later to other gods. Though several other idols or pictures are present in the worship room; every body trusts their own God. Also their own Guru who taught them how to worship and the rules to perform. Daily they offer food their God. Daily they ask God to enter in to the idol and live. Daily after completion of the worship they send back their God to His Own residence. Daily they invite God on their own body and to remain with them life long and lead them on good path. So, they say that whatever is done by them is the Order of God. And every thing is done as per His wishes.
Further it's worth while telling here that no body eats food in this worshipping room. This is not a dining hall. If food is taken here the food particles fall on the ground thus polluting worship room with bacterial contamination. The individual Hindu is a God and He is separated again from God becoming himself untouchable and making God untouchable?! Another important point is Hindu Brahmin says I am myself untouchable. Don't touch me. Oh! My dear brethren of the other caste persons, you too all maintain untouchables with each other. Do not touch me. I will not touch you. Is it essential to touch each other while speaking? Is it essential to kiss and hug one? Another UN necessarily? If you come to my home as guest I make you sleep on the bed and I sleep on ground as I am having only one bed. Do you feel happy if you sleep on my bed? Yes! After any person if uses my bed I will through it out. I never offer my bed to God. You all gods do you say now even interested in sleeping on my bed sharing my bed with me? Of course I can not sleep like that. If God sleeps on my bed I will stand by the side of His bed with a fan and pressing his legs to relieve Him from all pains. These were the days of old Hindu Brahmins. So tell me who is untouchable? Whether Brahmin or others??

Long back when the present day science is not known, Hindus knew about this compatibility and in compatibilities. As and when individuals take birth they become separate entity. As a fruit ripens on the tree and becomes separate entity, the children born from any individual become a separate life of its own. That child's blood may or may not be compatible with our blood. It is a separate entity and separate DNA. Though similarities are present there are several differences in side the body. You may not be able to give in transfusion your blood to your own child. Your wife may be having more affection over you. She may be sleeping daily in the bed with you. When you need blood transfusion, her blood may not suit you. Like that vice versa. You blood may be in compatible to her. You can not transplant any of your body organs among each other. One has to decide whether compatibility is present or not. To avoid such problems, Hindus kept every individual as separate entity, and UN touchable from one another.
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There is another type of untouchables in the same house among the close kith and kin members. This is all just like touch me not policy. I will not touch you, You don't touch me! During the menses period the ladies in the menses are kept in a separate room away from all the members of the family. These ladies in the period are separately given food in their room. All the utensils and clothes used by them should be cleaned by them only. After keeping them for three days like that in a separate room, On the fourth day that lady cleans her room and takes a sacred bath with turmeric powder mixed water and water of river Ganges if available and water from the plant tulasi leaves soaked.(Osimum suctum-ocimum guatissimum or the wild bacil Ocimum album)These are all sacred to Hindus. Probably they are anti septic and mosquito repellents. Science is embedded in this. During those three days the ladies in menses will be eliminating
Oestrogen smells which are very powerful in action on men who will become excited and influence them for an urge of sex. To avoid this probably ladies in those days stay away from men and other women and children of the house. Present day science says that the oestrogens are released during that period and the smell of oestrogens are so powerful that a bull staying at a long distance will also get excited and will come to that cow which is in heat as if He got an invitation from that cow. These facts hold well with all animals and human beings. See the ladies in those three days. They feel restless. Head ache, some may feel abdominal pain, some discomfort all these are being felt by women. So, it is better to give them a rest and peace of mind.
Simultaneously all the family members should be peaceful and all the society too. Hence, these ladies in those days are not allowed to temples and also are not allowed to worship God for those three days. Only after taking sacred bath after these three days they are allowed to mingle with others. There is One God "Ayyappa" born by the unison of Lord Vishnu (while He was in the incarnation of a female "Mohini",to subside kill Bhasmasura who got power in his hands to burn anybody to ashes if he keeps hands on the head of the individuals)with Lord Shiva.Ladies of middle age are not allowed into this temple as this God is a bachelor and is not desirous of sex.
The girls immature and the old ladies who attained menopause are allowed to this God. Now
One has to decide whether this God or those ladies are un touchable?! No temples should be visited and no sacred river baths are allowed to the ladies in menses. So, will you call this as un touch ability? Hindus are all just like "touch me not!" plants. If any body touches them the shrink and feel shy just like that plant. They do not make others to suffer for that, they them selves suffer and take baths any number of times if they have been touched. It was made a custom and tradition in Hindu Brahmin families. At times the all other caste people will also follow this tradition. How can we question their individual feelings? It's their body an it is their will and pleasure. To make Hindu Brahmin ladies weep some mischievous people used to touch their water utensils and clothes to make them again to take bath. It's a play for others. But, those ladies and men of those families do follow these principles, due to fear of God. They before worshiping
God pickup the water with several precautions to satisfy their God. Hence, they never feel of taking baths several times. At last those teasing persons stop teasing them by seeing their difficulties. Early morning before taking bath every body is untouchable and is not allowed into the temples. Only after taking bath they can enter a temple. There are several types of baths recommended , as per the circumstances and situations. If the person is sick and feverish, to him permission is granted to take "Manthra snana". "OM!Apavitra pavitravasthangato piva-Narayana Narayana"chanting name of God. If water is not available sand bath and sun baths are allowed.
In Muslim countries and in chill weather in western countries it so happens. But,In India where there is plenty of water-Water bath is a must. Cold water is having first preference, Luke warm water for old and young people allowed. This is all science embedded culture and actually not told by God. To the people to whom they think God- The elders and Gurus told all Hindus this type of healthy behaviors, which were traditionally followed.
Saint Swami Vivekananda said about Hindus-"Hindus know to sacrifice them selves for right reason and will not harm others. To understand this Mahatma Gandhi's life is exemplary. His type of fight
for freedom shows how he fought with British without weapons . No-violence movements,
No uttering of harsh wards even though beaten . Not taking food days and weeks, months together till British accept his proposals . Voluntarily self suffering not injuring the enemy. There is no enmity to him with any body. He liked every body. He loved every body .He liked humanity and man kind. He lived as a "True Hindu" Saint. Of course after the invasion of other people some have turned ferocious and started fighting against the interest of Gandhi for freedom. Finally the non-violence won the race over violence as Jesus won against the punishment given to Him on Cross!!? Thus Hindus are all untouchable like "attapatti plant",siggaku which is sensitive becomes shrunken with shy if touched. There are some flowers which shed down their petals if touched.
So, Who will dare to spoil the life of a Hindu who is harmless to others? Naturally those God loving persons , have felt of Humanity and thought of leaving India by giving freedom to Indians by seeing the principled life of Gandhi who looked like Jesus to them.
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(To be continued. Again let's go to trinty?!)
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8 Comments to HINDUISM-8-C.-Untouchability a Social Menace?!

- unclefrank
- 2008-02-29 @ 12:52:55
A very interesting article on untouchability.
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- ramrali19
- 2008-02-29 @ 14:44:18
Dear friend now I added this compatibility and incompatibilities well known by science of the present day.
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- ganesharocks
- http://yogini.blog.ca
- 2008-02-29 @ 16:29:49
Great post!
Om Shanti
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- deleted user (Visitor)
- 2008-02-29 @ 19:46:55
This is a great post. I am always interested in learning more about other faiths. We need to learn more about one another and this world would be a better place.
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- victorysunitha
- 2008-03-02 @ 10:58:34
This article is really superb and a new approach for discovering the reasons for untouchables in Hindus. Naturally every individual Hindu thinks him separate entity and builds his or her own den or arena. They never try to enter other's arena and they never allow others to enter their arena. Individuals do meditation and prayers for themselves for their difficulties, and they never try to give their difficulties to others. So, is the individuality, individual meditations and prayers? Though the group prayers and worships are done in temples, the prominence is given to the continuation of the worships in their own individual houses. The reason is -though the temples said to be sacred there is every possibility of pollutions, children passing stools-urine, may create nausea and there will be a feeling of discomfort. So as a saying is present self help is the best help; self praying is always best. Further, if some body prays for their sake; they may not get full satisfaction. There should be no mediators between Hindus and their God or gods. The pleasures and displeasures that come across in their lives they think that they are due to their deeds and sins of the past birth and they want to do good deeds in the present life to take better life in the next coming birth.
Ofcourse, they ask to end this wheel of birth and death and ask God to make him merged in to His body. This is what they call by the end. To be in Lord in eternal bliss. Living in Him with Him.
So, Hindus never fear to death. They are rather all introverted in their own thoughts of brain .They think that they are changing the clothes of their soul by death and going to reborn or may get merged in God. To give good health to their kith and kin relatives also do prayers for their sake. And by taking money the worshippers in the temples will pray God for the restoration of health, wealth and to solve the problems and difficulties. This is all third graded effects. But real help could be done by some extra ordinary great monk or priest who worships god several hours together to whom it is not so easy to find out. But, even then there will be some help. They pray all the planets to be kind enough and help for the success in their prayers, They say that all the planets are under the control of God. But even then at times these planets never permit them to worship even God.
Further Hindus restrict ladies as “pujaris" worshippers in temples. Probably this my be the reason-The menses cycle is an objection for ladies to be as employees in the temples to worship God. Thus ladies of any family are thought to be as 4th.class Sudras , and thy are not investiture with sacred threads. [No upanayanam-No manthropadesam (teaching of mantras) are allowed. Further there is a notion that at the time of threads marriages the pregnant ladies are not allowed to sit there as if the "Gayathri Matha Maha mantra " is heard by a pregnant lady, the fetus in the womb of that lady does not feel interest to take birth on the earth and tries to fall down immediately thus causing abortion to mother. A story regarding this non teaching of Mantras to ladies is present in the story of Kacha and Devayani*. http://www.hindubooks.org/books_by_rajaji/mahabharata/devayani_and_kacha/page1.htm
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And other ladies were more learned than men and did worships with Mantras; may not be true! They were vested with more powers by birth and also by virtue of becoming wife to great Rishis, following principled life with good character. Present Hindu ladies are fighting for this Rights which should not be accepted. Like wise now the lady barbers
also entered in Tirumala temple which should not be encouraged. Ladies should not be allowed to do the duties of vaidika karmas and other pujas. Any how ladies are allowed to be as worshippers in Goddess temples. Hindu Goddesses and other goddesses, and devathas do not have this monthly menses. Hence there is no problem in worshipping them But, only problem is with human ladies who will be getting monthly periods. Except goddess "Renuka Devi",*
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http://www.pantheon.org/articles/p/parasurama.html
http://www.mythfolklore.net/india/encyclopedia/renuka.htm
http://www.freeindia.org/biographies/sages/parashurama/page12.htm
http://www.bvml.org/books/SB/09/16.html
Mother of 6 th. Incarnation God Narayana "Parasurama" ,and wife of "Jamadagni"who gets annually once this period as known. There is only one temple for her I think .All the stories behind these are all scientific based. Hindus too believe that there is Only One God "Universal One!" The stories of all these others are to inculcate hygiene and health in the society by telling a good story on the name of some god, and to make all to follow a Rule rigidly without passing an Order of Law.
God is Himself a Supreme LAW!
The Kshudra Devatha temples can be seen with lady worshippers where local liquors (toddy) meat is being offered to those goddesses. Animal slaughters are present at such temples. There the spirits or goddesses will take possession on men and women and such scenes are frequently seen. These goddesses are very ferocious and children get feared by seeing that site. To avoid such fears frequently he children were made to understand that that goddess is their mother and because of her their crops are grown and timely rains will be present and they are all getting food.
Thus the children will also become fearless to goddess and they too become furious to sacrifice the animals in front of goddess.
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- GodDevendra
- 2008-03-02 @ 11:33:48
On one point I appreciate this article for scientific approach made for the touch me not policy of Hindus- and UN touch ability. Present day science is telling more diseases are being communicated through shake hands, hugging and kisses among the people in the society. This is being avoided by Hindus by keeping alert and telling to be away from each other as UN touchable. Only in certain circumstances they get together that too after taking all precautions of bathing and after getting in contact again taking the fresh bath and so on. Though this all looks to be blind belief , it has got scientific reasons.
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- deleted user (Visitor)
- 2008-03-12 @ 19:38:23
Untouchability is one of the worst parts of Hinduism. As a hindu my self i personally reject the caste system, i think it is cruel system that luckily is not used to the extent it was hundreds of years ago.
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- ramrali19
- 2008-03-19 @ 19:06:58
I too dislike this un-touch ability present in India. Unfortunately I cannot go against the Rules of Nature. There are compatibilities and in-compatibilities in the nature among own species and different species though all are human beings. There are specific differences among the races. There are different odors released from different persons. Some sweats more and some sweats less. God if He is present He is not giving the same pleasures to every body. Any how as human being let us keep this un-touch ability far from all the races. We are more than God. In good olden days population was less in India. Frequent battles were present. More deaths. The longevity is not more than 40 yrs.
Child deaths are too more. As the deaths of men in wars were more they accepted to marry one man by several ladies. The Forests are more and the forest dwellings deaths due to wild animals, snakes were also common. Further, there were no jobs for earning if all get studying. Hence to safe guard their earning the individuals started telling that they are of a particular caste to do their own work which should not be done by others. Thus they united came to a conclusion to keep caste system and be secluded from each other to have their food. Actually the money is food grains and clothes fruits and ornaments. They used to share with the society all the products though each was kept secluded. At the time of auspicious occasions all used to mingle. But, later it turned to be a curse in Hindu religion. Now, the population is more. Production is more. Longevity is high. Educational subjects are more. There are so many wings in the education. Hence, this
UN touch ability should be removed. There is a lot of development to control the diseases
And medicine too developed. In good olden days to control the invasions from outside
They themselves divided them into sects for fighting, controlling, patrolling and other works. In those days only the production type of works are present like potters, basket makers, house constructors,carpenters,kammari,(black smith) barbers and so on.
Further we have to think of another probable thing. In those days ladies were thought to be just like a fruit on a tree and can be eaten by any body. Ladies are thought to be having no caste. Even then when a guest visits a house and asks for a lady, the host has to provide his own wife. Life styles and habits of different people will be having different ways. Hindus thought that the seed is being sown by man and the ladies are thought to be the fertile land. Hindu Brahmins used to control their sex and they contact the ladies on some days only in the ancient days. Evenings, (sunset times) day times, and on no moon days ,eclipse times they will not mate with ladies. By seeing the planetary positions they mate with ladies to get good children. In such case there must be a strong wall between sects to have children of the same cult and habits. Once a Brahmin stayed long time as bachelor and was doing meditation to get a good pedigree. He calculated the astrological position and decided to mate his wife on a particular day at particular time to have a good son who will become the emperor for all the earth. Unfortunately, when he wanted to go to his wife , there was a river flooding speedily. He could not go to his wife because of that flood and was sitting on the riverside in a sad face. At that time one potter caste person saw the Brahmin and asked why he was sad. Brahmin told his intention of mating his own wife to get an emperor. Immediately the potter gave his daughter in marriage to that Brahmin and the Brahmin married her and mated her on that particular time. The daughter of that potter gave birth to would be Emperor Salivahana on his name the year was started; who killed vikramaditya and became emperor. This Salivahana prepared toys of soldiers,elephants,horses with weapons and introduced life in those pot toys . These toys fought with the soldiers of Vikramaditya and won the war.
If other caste people get mating with Brahmin ladies their children may get become not so powerful. Vasishta married lower caste lady Arundhati. Though the Brahmins wondering from one place to another will be away from their wife for a longer periods; when they go to any other family as guest , may get excited by seeing the lady in others family. Hence that provision might have been given to such Brahmin by thinking that their seed is good and more powerful to produce good pedigree. The following allowed sons are present to man -1,Ourasudu= sons born to his wife by mating himself. 2.Kshetrajnudu= On the acceptance of husband , if his wife gets child with another man . 3.Gudhotpannudu= If any boy was born to him by mating some others wife secretly . 4. Apaviddhudu= If any boy was left away by both father and mother and if that son was taken by some man to rear him. All these four classes of sons are allowed in the society with the same honor as of their own sons and will be provided the share in the father’s property. If a Brahmin lady goes with a lower caste person she must go with him only and she will be of that caste only. If a lower caste lady marries a Brahmin that lady will be treated as Brahmin lady and the same honor is given to her as Brahmin’s wife. Concourse, in all these cases the ladies will not be having contacts with their parent side families. The lady Diti asked her husband to mate her at the time of sun set, As it is a Rule to obey the interest of lady; her husband Kasyapa mated her and she gave birth to daityas the demons. (This is a mythological story) Ancient India and Hinduism is having a lot of un-known history in which several types of contacts among men and women is present which now we can not justify and assess what was the reason. In those times of days they were essential and for the present day it is not essential. Parasara with Matsya Gandhi got the birth of VedaVyasa and he gave a boon to her as to be Yojana Gandhi with sweet smell from that day on wards. This Vyasa is thought to be Narayana and He wrote all 4 Vedas. And Father of Maha Bharath . He gave children 1.Dhrutarashtra (blind because his mother closed her eyes by seeing the Vyasa with big beard), 2. Pandu rajau (leukoderma patient or pale like anemic as his mother while mating with Vyasa with fear became pale )3.Vidurudu to Sudra lady servant maid an intelligent boy with great knowledge was born as his mother was with pleasure while mating withVyasa .By mating with the daughter-in-laws of Satyavathi as per her request who was his mother and also the mother to Bhishma with another husband Santhanudu. All these stories declare that the lady is always pious who gave birth to both Vyasa and Bhishma from two husbands on different time gap.
Now how can we assess about this un-touch ability of those days? The remaining caste people are at liberty in their sex plays in their community with their own wives.
And they never might have agreed to the words of Brahmins. Brahmin community of those days were strictly vegetarians, must maintain fire in the house and must chant mantras and must do prayers in front of fire by pouring ghee in that fire. Must do tapasya, must do prana yams yoga and other auspicious worships. If any Brahmin does not follow these rules he will be treated as non Brahmin and sent out from their families boycotted.
The separate castes will be having separate groups of families at different places. They will not be allowed to mingle, except in some occasions.
I and You though dislike and hate this custom of Un touch ability among Hindus, the reason behind it may be some thing special in the Hindu families ,So, let us not talk about this worst culture now with our present knowledge.
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